Can You Shoot 380 Ammo in a 38 Special

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  1. I sold my P3AT and I just found a new White box of .380's. My instinct tells me no, but could I shoot the 380'south from my .38spl Airweight? (Aforementioned bullet bore right?)
    I could see at that place being build-up in the cylinder where the .38 case would be, so I would accept to clean that before going back to .38's. Would the bullet 'bounce around' in the cyliner and hit the 'ridge' before making it to the barrel?
    Would it exist any unlike using a steel j-frame (non an airweight)?
    Thanks all...
  2. There'd be nothing keeping the cartridges from moving forward. That is why on all auto chambered revolvers, you lot have moon clips. A .38, unless modified would not take moon clips and thus this would be a very bad and dumb matter to endeavour.
  3. Actually I call back some of the .45acp autos can work without a moon clip.

    But why would y'all want to exercise what you are proposing? .38 special is probably a niggling more than potent and also cheaper than .380acp. I'm too non sure that the diameter bullet is the same between .380acp and .38 special.

    Whatsoever you're thinking near doing just cease it.

  4. Ahh! And if the gun cylinder is not cut for moonclips than they cannot be used?
    Its all condign articulate now:rolleyes:
    I may accept pondered that all night-all I accept to do is come up to the pro's!
    Thanks
  5. DWFan

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    Those .45 ACP revolvers that function without total moon clips still have a chamber that has the case headspace on the oral cavity just like an autoloader. The clips are used only for extraction, non for headspacing or holding the cartridge in place so the firing pin can reach the primer. The .380 uses a smaller diameter bullet than the .38 Special; .355" vs .357".
    Although this could be made to work, there is no reason for information technology. You're taking a cartridge with less ability than a .38 Special and reducing it even more by firing it in a weapon with a barrel gap which volition bleed off even more power. Not worth the attempt fifty-fifty if you could get in work.
    Why not simply sell the ammo or trade it for a box of .38 Special?
  6. Simply put, don't use a cartridge in a gun it wasn't made for.
  7. Except that was designed for a agglomeration of unlike cartridges.
  8. Information technology's generally a bad thought to have somebody else's prescription medication and to employ a cartridge the name of which isn't stamped into your gun. You're likely to get dissonant results.
  9. What ever happened to the MEdusa? I accept an one-time flier from teh original company and was concidering sending in my 686 dorsum then for the modification. Never did, kind of wish I had though.
  10. I'm not certain. I've heard that in that location were issues with information technology, and I've heard that it just never took off. I don't really know the real story, but on newspaper, it looks like a killer thought. I'd beloved to have 1, if but for the ingenuity involved.
  11. I think it likely that the short .380 cartridge is but going to drib inside the chamber until stopped by the shoulder and therefore could not be struck by the firing pin. Just no affair - you lot should never shoot the Incorrect ammunition in whatsoever firearm.
  12. makarovnik wrote: Really!!??? I thought all autos worked without a moon prune :)
  13. You lot could have the 9mm cylinder of a convertable 357/9mm blackhawk set for moon clips. That would work I think. (Not sure though, as I'm nowhere near a book with chamber/cartrige dimensions to verify)
  14. DWFan

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    Empty cartridges are removed from a Blackhawk cylinder by the ways of an ejection rod that laissez passer thru the cylinder downwards the middle of the spent case and pushes it from the bedroom...1 round at a fourth dimension.
    A double action revolver using moon clips has an extractor star that pushes against the prune and extracts all cartridges at the aforementioned time.
  15. Just thinking out loud here- but if you had a 9mm revolver why couldn't you use .380acps in that if you had to?
  16. Even the Medusa was not very good with .380s.
  17. Uhm no.

    Bad thought.

    .380ACP (9x17) is a .355" diameter bullet whereas the .38 spl is a .357" so there isnt going to to exist a good gas seal. The instance diameters are dissimilar (.380 is tapered also) so the case will expand decreasing pressures. Lack of a rim will lead to the cartridge to sink into the cylinder. The 380 also run a little hotter, if it could achieve maximum pressures it would exceed the +P rating on the .38 spl and be potentially dangerous.

    In that location is a reason people postage the name of the cartridge to be used on a gun y'all can't just stick anything that fits in there. I'chiliad sure Darwin has claimed quite a few people for doing that.

  18. Eljay

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    a friend has a Southward+Due west 9m/m revolver that does not employ moon clips just has "teeth" in the cylinder that catch the cartridge to squirt the spent cases, I'm not sure of the model number but made for just a curt time, pretty neat gun.
  19. Use them and report dorsum with the results:evil:
  20. .380 ACP can be fired in a .38 Special revolver, but but if the gun is pointed straight upward. And so y'all just have to persuade the bad guy to wing over you at low altitude.

    Jim

  21. In my young and stupider days (now I am older and stupid) I tried .380ACP in a .38 by
    (a) using rings of copper wire to fill up the extractor grooves to go along the casings from falling all the manner into the chamber, and, alternate method,
    (b) cut mylar plastic sheeting into moon clips.
    It can be done but I would do information technology once more only if I absolutely needed to shoot a .38 and simply had .380 ammo.

    I accept likewise pulled a stunt shootng .32ACP in an M1 carbine.

    Both .380ACP in a .38 and .32ACP in an M1 carbine are more work than the unspectacular results are worth.

  22. Take the high route...give those .380's to a shooting buddy. You lot'll be glad you did...and he'll be a happy camper to kicking!

    Marker.

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